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Post by terepy on Apr 28, 2016 21:07:09 GMT
hey everybody its your homegal terepy
okay i have no idea how to start a thread but heres the deal: i wanna get better at writing and ill probably use this thread to update with any prompts i have and look for some criticism because lord knows i need it
so without further ado, heres a prompt i wrote just now in a sleep-deprived haze so it might not be my best work, but i was trying to take chairubplays advice on making narration have some FLAVOR so i hope i captured some terezi in this
heads up this is an nsfw prompt with warnings for blood and creepy alien stuff, ill make an ooc later
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Post by terepy on Apr 30, 2016 7:06:43 GMT
sorry for thirst-bumping this thread but id really like some feedback on this. ive tried throwing it to the crowd but i havent gotten a connection in DAYS (namely, 2) and im really getting anxious that im doing something horrible with my writing thats making it completely unappealing to everyone, especially since my last prompt went ignored for a good 4-5 days until i quit with that one
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Post by entwaifu on May 3, 2016 12:04:08 GMT
Bless your heart, this is really hard to read because of the many adjectives and adverbs. The sentences are all clogged up and hard to read. Lean on your verbs harder, allow only desperately needed adjectives and adverbs. The narrative voice is either too tight up on Terezi or not tight enough; there are phrases that seem to be straight-up internal monologue and other phrases that sound like a different snarky narrator. The unrelenting mental FLARPing is Terezi-accurate but maybe a little extreme. Also I thought she was literally getting boned and I was even more confused.
xoxoxo xo xoxo rewrite it and it'll get better! Everything gets better every time you rewrite it!
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Post by terepy on May 4, 2016 6:21:32 GMT
Bless your heart, this is really hard to read because of the many adjectives and adverbs. The sentences are all clogged up and hard to read. Lean on your verbs harder, allow only desperately needed adjectives and adverbs. The narrative voice is either too tight up on Terezi or not tight enough; there are phrases that seem to be straight-up internal monologue and other phrases that sound like a different snarky narrator. The unrelenting mental FLARPing is Terezi-accurate but maybe a little extreme. Also I thought she was literally getting boned and I was even more confused. xoxoxo xo xoxo rewrite it and it'll get better! Everything gets better every time you rewrite it! Thank you for getting back to this! i really do appreciate it! though im afraid to sound super needy or doubtful or ungrateful or anything, but is there any specific instances you could quote where something was very confusing? it might just be because i wrote it, but i have a really hard time narrowing down which parts exactly are tough to read through, and id really appreciate help in seeing where exactly the problem is! also, in regards to narration style, since this is an entirely new style for me, whether i should drop this style or not. i have a TON of prompts written in a different, more objective and disconnected style, but i felt like i didnt want things to be dry or boring, but at the same time i wanted to avoid terezi painting the whole narration and leaving out vital information so that might have caused the whole narrative divide. do you have any sort of specific recommendations on how to balance that out? i think a huge amount of the problems come from the fact that i play terezi as really extreme and fond of adjectives in her rping. if thats too much of a turnoff for the narration itself, would it just be better to cut her out of the narration, or how would you suggest toning her down without tossing out a lot of her eccentricity?
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Post by entwaifu on May 4, 2016 14:30:04 GMT
Okay, I'm going to try to take it apart and find the skeleton.
> Having crash-landed in a forest on a dark and stormy night, Terezi watches her spaceship explode, pretending it wasn't her fault. She has a good laugh, notices that she's injured, and wanders around aimlessly until she runs into a native.
So now that we can see the actual events that occur, we can decide whether they make sense and are interesting. This is up to you, but for me, the delusional excuse-making and insane laughter at things that aren't funny is overshooting Terezi a bit. She sometimes acts crazy in front of people for reasons, but her private FLARPing is highly competent and sincere.
Sorry, I only meant to talk about the prose. That was my only character complaint.
I will try a couple experiments with the first few sentences. First, I just rewrite as simply as possible:
> In the middle of the night, in a forest, a spaceship first touched Earth. It had crashed.
Well, that was not good. Let's try removing all decorative adverbs, adjectives, and similes:
> In the middle of a night at a forest in New England, Earth made first contact. A wrecked spacecraft lay smoldering in a patch of trees, its finish dented from entry and landing. Slime frothed across the floor and mixed into a sludge with the downpour. The ship represented scientific discovery, or it had, until it self-destructed in a fireball of defeat.
That was sort of better. The "patch of trees" bugs me because a crashing spacecraft probably would have slid for about a mile and gotten torn up into a thousand pieces or just made a crater instead of a patch of trees, but here you have it nestled sweetly in this patch of trees like they grew up around it. If you picture in your mind what exactly has happened, that will help the details be vivid and make sense.
As for the narrative style, a pinch of sugar is sweeter than a pound. You can break this style out at intervals for effect, you just can't stomp the gas pedal on it at absolutely all times. It is just too exhausting to read. The things you're describing are flashy and dramatic anyway, so your prose should be transparent, to let the flash and drama show through without the huge cognitive overhead of processing all this chunky-style English, you know? Then lay down a neat swath of Terezi in the foreground where we can see and enjoy her, rather than trying to stuff her down our eyeballs all at once.
I hope the way I'm talking about this is not too harsh, I'm just trying to get across these intuitions I have about how to make the writing more effective. <3
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